I've gotten calls from several firms this morning regarding the need to file a map when staking a mobile home space (same guy calling everybody in town!). Since they're rented and not owned it seems that they would be like an easement and no map would be required.
Apparently there is a future condo plan in the works where a map would have to be filed but I'm on the fence on this one.
Anybody? Anybody? Beuler?
Monumenting mobile home spaces
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Gary O
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Monumenting mobile home spaces
Gary O'Connor, L.S. 7272
County Surveyor, Sonoma
County Surveyor, Sonoma
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goodgps
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For the Condo a map is definately required (as per the previous responses)
HOWEVER, for a simple rental mobile home park a map is not. At least in the sense of a final subdivision.
monumenting is only for space alotment similar to laying out camping and recreation spaces.
The reason for this is mobile home parks can accomodate single or double wide units. The spaces are for rent or lease only. Managers use the pedestals for control or have a sureyor set some base control down so they can float these spaces as they are rented/leased.
Now I'm not talking about a purchase style park. which of course would be a subd. These space-lots would be monumented and a map filed in accordance with the law.
I'm a bit confused about the condo map proposal. This would be a one-lot subdivision with spaces alotted on the condo plans themselves. . . I guess that works though.
Hmmmm
Just slap me around a bit, maybe I'll get it .
HOWEVER, for a simple rental mobile home park a map is not. At least in the sense of a final subdivision.
monumenting is only for space alotment similar to laying out camping and recreation spaces.
The reason for this is mobile home parks can accomodate single or double wide units. The spaces are for rent or lease only. Managers use the pedestals for control or have a sureyor set some base control down so they can float these spaces as they are rented/leased.
Now I'm not talking about a purchase style park. which of course would be a subd. These space-lots would be monumented and a map filed in accordance with the law.
I'm a bit confused about the condo map proposal. This would be a one-lot subdivision with spaces alotted on the condo plans themselves. . . I guess that works though.
Hmmmm
Just slap me around a bit, maybe I'll get it .
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subman
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A Division of Land for Mobile Home Purposes
For those interested, attached is a residential condominium project for mobile home units. It was done before my time, but I am still dealing with it. The owner never sold any of the units and has not completed the improvements that were needed for health and safety reasons. The improvement agreement is unsecured. The Map Act does not allow the local agency to collect bonds etc, so we have nothing to try and forfeit and have to play nice with the owner.
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Dennis Hunter, PLS & PE
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goodgps
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Dennis,
Thats what they look like SWEET thanks for the look see !
I'll bet the project is not vested. What were the conditions at the time.
What does the owner want to do now ? This isnt a survey issue at this time, but it sounds like a development issue.
You may, as a group of public works professionals, agree to grant this owner an exception and allow him to build out the project per the approved plans at the time of approval. This must be so stated that it is in the best interest of the public. You must, however, request him to follow current ADA standards.
As far as other infrastructure, such as curb types, wet utlilties, etc, these may be feasable (if they were constructed back then, wouldn't they still work?) If he is smart now, he will install modern utlilty pedestal configs or he won't sell anything.
As Far as Gary's concern.
I'd wait to go with the condo. Boundary corners are required.
Cheers
Thats what they look like SWEET thanks for the look see !
I'll bet the project is not vested. What were the conditions at the time.
What does the owner want to do now ? This isnt a survey issue at this time, but it sounds like a development issue.
You may, as a group of public works professionals, agree to grant this owner an exception and allow him to build out the project per the approved plans at the time of approval. This must be so stated that it is in the best interest of the public. You must, however, request him to follow current ADA standards.
As far as other infrastructure, such as curb types, wet utlilties, etc, these may be feasable (if they were constructed back then, wouldn't they still work?) If he is smart now, he will install modern utlilty pedestal configs or he won't sell anything.
As Far as Gary's concern.
I'd wait to go with the condo. Boundary corners are required.
Cheers