Scanning Services are NOT necessarily Surveying under LS Act 8726

Jay Wright · Post by **Jay Wright** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:56 pm

At least thats what someone on RPLS.com told me the other day. I disagreed. The main question was posed by an unlicensed person who had a business model of buying his own scanner and subbing it out to surveyors.

Without a surveyor, could he assist police with it? Architects to do floor plans? Site Plans? PE's with a topo?

Are there loopholes in 6731 (PE Act) and by extension 8726 which would make
a business such as this legal?

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:34 pm

I would think that whoever he subs to, he would have to work under that professional's authority in such a way that they would have to exercise responsible charge.

RasterMaster · Post by **RasterMaster** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:43 am

Based on the information, I don"t see a problem.

The police are exempt.

Architecs use non-LS's to lacate steele in foundations. You get what you pay for.

Site Plan and Topo typically will need a stamp.

HDS has taken off and is being used in many industies by non-LS's.

If no one wants an accuracy statement of his work then he can do what he wants to. He needs to stay away from Boundaries.

GIS folks have been locating fixed public works for years now and still are.

RM

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:28 pm

I saw that thread. The guy is about to graduate with a geomatics degree and thinks he has it all over all us jurassic period surveyors who are still working with solar transits and gunter's chains. He is proposing locating fixed works on a project site and then selling the data to surveyors and engineers. If he does it the way many photogrammatrists run their businesses, where the LS provides control before the flight and QC afterward, he may be OK.

If he is just collecting data and providing point clouds, independent of the LS, he is violating 8726. It seems like this is the way he intends to go.

Police have a special exemption in the law for what they do. That's not a good comparison. The architect's example is one where carpenters can make the measurements as they are only locating one element of a building foundation in relationship to the overall foundation.

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:42 pm

I didn't read every post in detail, but wasn't he given that advice several times? Looked to me like he has his mind made up. He has his techy toy, if he can afford it, his fancy new degree with all the latest and greatest knowledge that the rest of us somehow missed, and he's going to take the mapping world by storm!

land butcher · Post by **land butcher** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:44 pm

A post 1982 CE in So Cal scans topos for his projects.

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:31 pm

Did he go to fresno?

land butcher · Post by **land butcher** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:00 am

E_Page wrote:Did he go to fresno?

ROTFLMAO..............

Ian Wilson · Post by **Ian Wilson** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:12 pm

<humor>

Tom:

Evan is a graduate (with distinction) from the M. Gadhafi School of Diplomacy.

</humor>

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:36 pm

Please if you will now stop this illegal scanning against my profession, I pledge for to stop say that freslings think they know all, unless i decide not for to stop.

And by way, best wishes for success in continued career. May you renew license for to survey one thousand times.

M.G. Service of Diplomatic

land butcher · Post by **land butcher** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:03 pm

Ian Wilson wrote:<humor>

Tom:

Evan is a graduate (with distinction) from the M. Gadhafi School of Diplomacy.

</humor>

My Alma Mater too.