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Unlicensed Practice?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:50 am
by Jim Frame
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:03 am
by RAM
That's interesting
Mining claim
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:58 am
by Darth Vader
Jim,
According to federal mining laws, anyone can stake a claim. If you want to patent the claim, it must be surveyed by a licensed surveyor HOWEVER, in the 1980's the Interior Secretary, Bruce Babbitt placed a moratorium on patenting mining claims, which still exists today. To my knowledge, there are no state laws that trump this. Let me know if you know anything different.
Darth
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:15 am
by Lee Hixson
But what about his use of GPS to "locate" the stakes set to mark the "boundary" corners of the claim?
"Each stake is photographed with a GPS time and location stamp showing the coordinate and date and time of staking so you have a permanent record that your claim was staked properly."
I'm not sure (just thinking out loud here) but what about:
"8726 (e) By the use of the principles of land surveying determines the position for any monument or reference point which marks a property line, boundary, or corner, or sets, resets, or replaces any monument or reference point."
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:08 pm
by Jay Wright
Custom colors on the stakes for no extra charge, they must be reputable.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:35 pm
by land butcher
About 20 years ago a surveyor friend was looking into getting a federal license to survey mining claims. One of the requirements was a star or sun shot from 2 control points. Now with GPS has the law been changed?
Sounds like this company is avoiding the rules by not filing docs.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:25 pm
by MDL
About ......back in 81...staked 3 mining claims in the desert. If I remember right, to be able to stake a claim was to pass a special test given in Alaska to become a mineral surveyor. We used the 1973 Manual, found closing corners, 1/4 corners, section corners and calculated center of section. Set a post, a pile o rocks and a container with a copy of the claim.
From what I remember...I was a kid back then.....
MDL
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:37 am
by Peter Ehlert
looks like a fraudulent practice to me.
I sent a message to the "seller" asking if he is a LS and how he avoids filing requirements...
"Department of Land Transfer Information Inc." and a cute "uniform" :-)
watch the video on youtube, see the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXZaq9Bgtvo
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:54 am
by RAM
So what's with the uniform? Gun? dressed like either Fish & Wildlife or State Parks. So he is placing a post in a mound of stone, what does it represent?
Looks like a way to get paid for cruising the desert on an ATV. So with the method shown, +/- how much? Ya right!.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:19 am
by Peter Ehlert
EBay message:
Dear scyros35,
are you a licensed land surveyor?
you say no documents are filed... it is required by law to file either a corner record or a record of survey. how is it that you do not need to comply?Response:
Hello,
Thank you for your interest. We're not actually providing survey services, we are only providing a service to stake corner boundaries/Markers for mining claims.
that clears it up! end of story... ?
federal interest lands
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:36 am
by dmi
Mining claims on Federal Lands are subject to federal rules.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:55 am
by Jay Wright
Thank you for your interest. We're not actually providing survey services, we are only providing a service to stake corner boundaries/Markers for mining claims.
I contacted him on Ebay as well, above is the response.
Looks like a cut and paste of his response to others.
I asked him if there was any sort of license associated with his practice to make sure he put the corner BOUNDARY markers in the right place.
And I asked him if he could stake a house lot for me.
On a side note, has anyone tried the Garmin Montana 650t this guy uses?
Looks like a nice one. My etrex died and I need (not really) a new handheld.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:54 am
by Frank Romano PLS
My handheld GPS died and I now use my Galaxy S4 with "GPS Essentials" app. Works great in the desert. Usually gets me within 5-10ft of my search coordinate.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:26 pm
by Jim Frame
I tried using my cell phone as a handheld replacement when my Garmin 12CX stopped recognizing its internal antenna, but after about a year I got tired of the clumsy waypoint support and limited battery life, so I bought a Garmin etrex 20. It does everything I need it to do for recon purposes, and I don't regret the purchase.