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Does the Corner Record need revisions ?

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:18 pm
by LS 4722
I think that the current CR form needs to have a few changes made to it.

The Surveyor's Statement reads:

This Corner Record was prepared by me or under my direction in conformance with the Land Surveyor's Act on _____________, ______
Signed_______________ PLS or RCE No. _______________

With Cadd as one of our main tools, many times it is easier to make any county surveyor corrections or additions using Cadd instead of erasing / editing the original signed. This of course changes the original date of submission because a Cadd corrected form needs to be signed again with a new signature date.

Adding a resubmission date and signature as well as the word 'originally' to the current form would help a lot in my opinion

This Corner Record was [originally] prepared by me or under my direction in conformance with the Land Surveyor's Act on _____________, ______
Signed_______________ PLS or RCE No. _______________
Resubmission date: ___________ Signed:________________

The second page should be user optional - Grid or No Grid

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:14 pm
by LS_8750
I looked through a corner record this week from Santa Cruz County that called three undisturbed original monuments from the subject map off by at least a half foot each. Monuments were then set at calc points corresponding to the dimensions on the original map.

The concept of the corner record has been so grossly perverted, that I for one cannot accept the idea. I'll look them over to see whose tags I may find, briefly scoff, and then go about my work.

How I handle an RS Surveyors Statement

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:31 am
by LS 4722
Over cautious, maybe!

I just do not like the idea of explaining why an RS or CR that's been finalized (County seal/signature applied) has a conflict with the state time
frame for submitting.

PDF attached

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:37 am
by LS 4722
Over cautious, maybe!

I just do not like the idea of explaining why an RS or CR that's been finalized (County seal/signature applied) has a conflict with the state time
frame for submitting and date of survey being done

PDF attached

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 am
by Lee Hixson
You make a reasonable suggestion. I wish I could encourage you but a couple of years ago I proposed a number of revisions for the CR form, even giving a presentation to the LSTAC. I had a lot of support. Nothing happened.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:41 am
by PLS7393
I do not thing your suggested revision is necessary. As mentioned by LS4722 your submission date and County Surveyors date of signing should be sufficient enough. If there is a large gap of time, it is obvious there were revisions, or maybe the County was too busy to review the corner record within the time frame outlined in Section 8773.2

Lee

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:00 am
by LS 4722
.... As mentioned by LS4722 your submission date and County Surveyors date of signing should be sufficient enough.
County receipt date changes when an amended CR is resubmitted, in conflict with the date of survey, which never changes. An original County receipt date on first submission is always within statute time frame of date of survey, well, for my submissions it is..[/QUOTE]
.... If there is a large gap of time, it is obvious there were revisions..
Nothing is obvious to an attorney, except how to twist the truth

the date submitted?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:27 am
by bruce hall
"This of course changes the original date of submission because a Cadd corrected form needs to be signed again with a new signature date."

Just put a line thru the original date and put the date I am resubmitting.

Don't have to resign anything.

Bruce

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:43 am
by LS 4722
Don't have to resign anything.
You do if you make changes and use Cadd to make a corrected record

Well then paul

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:19 pm
by bruce hall
I stand corrected. And as long as I am being corrected I will resign and re date the CR and make it correct.

U SO FUNNY

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:19 pm
by LS 4722
You always crack me up Bruce