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Stiffed on Surveys etc

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:13 pm
by goodgps
I light of that great thread about setting wood stakes and establishing boundaries, I thought I'd share a bit of Aggrevation.

Over the years of business, I have been "stiffed" for Surveys, in many ways.
Some simply cant Pay for the survey, others, get their stake with the yellow cap, and wont pay for a map, and even some have passed away.

Employing collection companies, may sometimes work, and I do that.

But meanwhile, I file the map on my own dime.

From this day forward, I want to title these as
RECORD OF SURVEY
FOR
"ME"

Now that being offered, I suppose it would be slanderous to make a note on the map stating that the client wouldnt pay.

Can anyone offer a history of why 8766 was written, and for what purpose ? And when was it intended for the local public agency to dictate your map, and also make more of a profit than the survey itself. ???

Filing a Record of survey, was to place on public record, the findings of retracement and noting of any discrepancies found.

It was a Public service by a private Surveyor and his client. NOT a taxable commodity. ?

I'd really like to know what the initial intent of 8766 was.

This is study material.

Naming Monuments

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:22 pm
by Gromatici
We've all seen Monuments named "Jackie" or some other female name. Why don't you put "Would" on one monument description on the map, then "Not", "Pay" and "Jerk" for the 4th corner. Just names, not slander!

I think it would have to be untrue to be slander though, so if they paid after the map recorded.....

thanks Dave

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:29 pm
by dmi
Dave thanks for your post.

this is great.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:34 pm
by bruce hall
some fella/lady asked a question, and another gives an answer. Gotta luv it.
It helps me also.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:37 pm
by goodgps
Great info !!! Dave
Thanks

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:39 pm
by goodgps
P S
Quit callin me a lady or I'll hit you with my purse !!!

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:33 pm
by PLS7393
Good info, and Good, I hope you swing a 8 pound sledge better than a purse, heheheee!

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:05 am
by E_Page
I've never had a client die before paying (yet), so I'm not certain how I'd handle that. Bill the estate, I guess and go from there.

For those who don't have the $, I've worked out payment schedules. If they work with me in good faith, I have waived late fees. This has worked out a couple of times, and not worked a couple of times.

For those who won't pay, there are liens and small claims court. One client had m do a bunch of work as he was preparing for bankruptcy (which I was ignorant of). I went and wasted my time at the creditors' hearing only to have the AJ dismiss my claim while the client sat there giving me a really smug smirk. Found out at the hearing that this was the 3rd time he had declared bankruptcy. At least I had collected a deposit, so it could have been worse.

Unfortunately, there is nothing in the PLSA about waiving the checking and recording fee, so we're stuck with it. Also unfortunately, we can't go undo our surveys (pull irons already set) because the client won't pay. So we are still required to file the map.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:40 pm
by land butcher
I'm 4 and 0 in small claims court.

I hate corps that go bankrupt, The owners keep their 6 figure salaries while not paying subs then the courts say this business has nothing so you get nothing.
I have heard of const company corp non payers having their Mercedes acid washed.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:44 pm
by goodgps
Land B,
Are these Ideas? or just facts ? (acid wash) haha

To PLS 7393, Apparantly I cant swing a sledge better. I threw out my back and can hardly sit after pounding 2" iron pipes in the ground.

Now if they only made a purse with a built in jackhammer . . . .

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:44 pm
by goodgps
Land B,
Are these Ideas? or just facts ? (acid wash) haha

The PLS 7393, Apparantly I cant swing a sledge better. I threw out my back and can hardly sit after pounding 2" iron pipes in the ground.

Now if they only made a purse with a built in jackhammer . . . .